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General Communications Forums => General Discussion Similar to Facebook => Topic started by: Guysgearsandgrit on May 22, 2024, 12:47:14 PM
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Hey there!
As the title suggests I am wondering if any XH 1999 Super X owners would be willing to provide B-roll for a youtube video I am putting together.
I run a small YouTube channel titled Guys Gears and Grit and recently got a Super X myself and wanted to do a video on the bike and a bit of the history on Excelsior-henderson.
Unfortunately the bike I got does not currently run and I am looking for B-roll content of the motorcycle being driven, and just of the motorcycle running.
B-roll footage is just extra footage that I can use clips of to add more scene changes and offer different perspectives of the bike.
B-roll footage needs to be shot horizontally and on a newer Iphone Preferably.
If you would be willing you can email me any footage or pictures to guysgearsandgrit@gmail.com
Thanks so much! Im trying to let this motorcycle get some love on YouTube!
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I'm a bit nervous, after you contacted me on youtube.... I watched some of your videos, and smashing a Kawasaki was an eye opener.
But I'm going to trust your judgement to do the right thing. As you may noticed reading here, and watching parts of my videos, we are a proud bunch. And would take issue if you were to treat one of our scoots as the above example.
I can't speak for everyone on this forum or the X community.... but I'm game for most if not all promotion of our bikes (getting the word out there, we are a real group)...
Bruce Whitefoot
alias "Grandpa Grumpy Pants"
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Hey,
Thanks so much for your concern. We did do some videos of smashing a Kawasaki and I can assure you it was in good fun. Any motorcycle we have damaged would have only been made scrap as it had so many issues with it, so we determined that it would bring more value being able to just be guys and smack it around and at least get a light hearted video out of it.
With that being said, I appreciate you offering footage from your channel to be used in our YouTube video of the Exclusior-Henderson.
I had not actually heard of the motorcycle until recently and after acquiring one I began doing many hours upon hours of research on the company and its current following and groups of people.
I have been fascinated by the company history as well as the uniqueness of the bike and want to portray that as best I can through our YouTube channel!
With that any footage being posted is just to enhance the viewing pleasure of the video and is not going to show the Exclusior-Henderson Super X or the company in any negative light.
I am very very grateful for your willingness to share clips and am excited to hear what you think of the video once I can get it edited and posted.
Finally with that being said, is there anything specific that I may not have heard from articles about Exclusior-Henderson Super X that I should include the video? Like I said it was only until recently that I heard about them and I can only gleam so much from articles written by people who may have never even touched one!
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With the exception of mispronouncing the name, I think they did a fair job. It was entertaining and presentable.
https://youtu.be/GRAEGlZ-S_g?si=pTVp-H4atg3SmJa4
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Whoops. Nice try. Clean up the information
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Well, if the plan is to part out that bike and make a million bucks, the advice would be to sell it complete, as it sits right now. SunCoast made the mistake of trying to part out another one maybe five years ago because "It's so rare" and they priced the parts exactly like your ebay store. You can go search it for yourself. They're still sitting on a mountain of parts and they've recently discounted many of them by 20-50%.
There's another at a dismantler in Oklahoma or somewhere around there. Much of that is still there and that bike got parted almost ten years ago.
As it sits, that's maybe a $3.5-4K motorcycle. There, I threw it out there, you didn't have to ask. You'll see all kinds of asking prices around the web. They aren't selling for nearly what they're asking unless it got all the upgrades done and documented.
We've all seen this movie: you're going to want $8K for that "rare and exclusive motorcycle" and when the dust settles, you'll part it out and get stuck with most of the parts.
Sorry if that comes off as smug. Trying to save you the frustration and maybe keep that bike from getting needlessly parted out.
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Here here Greg and Bobby!!
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Hey! thanks for the kind words despite a rookie mistake of mispronouncing it!
And thank you for the advice!
We do tend to part out motorcycles as I am sure you could gather from our channel, but to be honest we haven't decided what to do with the XH. It is a beautiful bike. My boss has had similar worries about parting it out as what you laid out, and I am trying to sway my boss into seeing if we can get it running again as the previous owner said it was running prior to letting it sit.
To be clear (and blunt) is kind!
I will let my boss know what y'all think about parting it out!
Lastly, thank you for the comments on the video explaining where we missed the mark, we don't pretend to be know it alls and it really helps to make sure viewers get the right information!!
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I concur..... it looks in good enough shape to sell complete.
You guys want advice on getting it running..... don't be afraid to ask here.We have a process for all the "sat around" X's. May save you some headaches.
It looks like its had at least one of the many updates.... the east coast oil cooler. I can't tell if its got a fan behind it or not.
If you give us the last 4 vin.... it'll give us a possible idea how many have been done, as we could ask around.
Looking at the registry, it maybe Nick Munch's super X. As its the only blue 99 on the michigan registry.
Bruce Whitefoot
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boss has had similar worries about parting it out as what you laid out, and I am trying to sway my boss into seeing if we can get it running again as the previous owner said it was running prior to letting it sit.
I'm glad you weren't offended. Just to kinda' lay out the hows and whys: most of these bikes were in the showrooms when the company started to have trouble and they had a multi-year, underdog buildup to the bikes being produced at all. Very few bikes got bought as "just another motorcycle" and subsequently, they don't have the usual turnover of parts and trying to keep them running and whatever. The bikes were sold and kind of sorted themselves into a few conditions.
- There are super low mile bikes or even crate bikes where the owners are waiting for their bike's to be collectible and protect them as an investment. They won't need parts now, if ever. Most of them are probably rotting in place, having never been ridden and corrosion still taking them.
- There are owners like me who keep them in running condition, baby them and wax them and take them out occasionally. With eight of them, I can only put so many miles a year. Because of that, all of mine have "low miles". People mistakenly think they're new when I ride them somewhere.
- There are some owners who ride them semi-often and put miles on them. These guys know all too well that the hardest thing to repair would be the engine. Clean, low mile bikes crop up for sale a few times a year, with more bikes than buyers. An engine might sell but, $1500? Nobody is spending more on an engine when clean bikes can't find buyers.
The bottom line is: there aren't many potential customers who are trying to fix their old bike that got a dent in the tank. As an example, there are three gas tanks on eBay right now. All of them have been out there for years. The red one is Suncoast. They tried very briefly to sell that bike. All the tins are still there, the engine, the forks, the frame, the cluster, the exhaust. I can't even tell what's missing.
There just aren't enough of these bikes getting 'damaged' to consume the average used parts from a dismantled one. If you part it out, condition will be absolutely, 100% everything. It will be guys wanting to replace pitted chrome so the chrome would have to be perfect and not too expensive. Someone might want that tank or fender but, it had better be showroom perfect. Nobody is buying tanks to "repaint the bike." They want a perfect part or at least better than what they have.
Worse for you: because there were so few bikes made, each of the color combinations is 100-200 bikes. The most common colors are not the one you have (most of them were black with red pinstripes). There were a total of 116 of the blue bikes made. That means you have 115 other bikes in the entire world who will be a candidate for any of those tins. That doesn't mean its rare. The red tank Suncoast has is 1 of 133 and it's sitting there. They'd have to already have their own bike and yours would need to be much much cleaner for them to consider it at all.
Here's another one being parted:https://www.ebay.com/str/autonetmoto
I nearly bought that bike just before it was low-sided and ended up being dismantled. That was over ten years ago. Look at how much stuff they still have (you have to search in their inventory for Henderson--they misspelled Excelsior). Most of the parts they sold, were sold relatively cheap. I know because they ended up on some of my bikes. It was all very nice OEM chrome stuff. They didn't make much on that bike.
So pure profit motivation: sell the bike you have with nothing more invested. Wash it, wax it, sell it non-running, to an enthusiast for $2,000-2,500. Let them invest the sweat equity of sorting out all the little problems. It's going to need a fuel pump rebuild and probably injector cleaning at a minimum. Hope and pray the tank isn't leaking. Battery, two tires and tubes, your labor, etc. You could do all of that and it will be a $4,500 bike on a good day.
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Well said Greg !!!
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Very Well said, thanks so much!
I did mention this all to my boss and he concurred and said eventually we will work on getting it up and running and once we get to that point we may need some help diagnosing and now know where to go!
You all have been very gracious, and helpful!
We love the community backing these motorcycles!
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Unfortunate ending in my opinion, my boss looked up the sell price of XH motorcycles for one in our condition even running and didn't feel it was worth it. I tried to stop him.
He decided to play the long game/roll the dice and part it out and see what happens.
Unfortunate but nevertheless we are grateful for all y'all's insight!
Hopefully some of these parts will be beneficial in keeping other ones running.
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Shelf space costs money every single month. He will regret taking that bike apart within 6 months when he sees how little sold and wishes it were still whole and worth $3K.
There will be a few very minor items that will sell fast. None of them are big-ticket. If he figures out what they are and asks too much, they won't sell either. After that, it will all be wasted sheet metal and parts.
Carry on.
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What site is he selling the parts on ???
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If this bike was a blue one...then parts are on ebay already...from Florida
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Yeah it takes up shelf space, but he is in it for the long haul, we will see how it goes.
Berlin Bob, we are selling parts on Ebay, the store is called "The Part Resource"