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oil breather
« on: March 09, 2017, 08:21:01 AM »

Getting around to the throttle body my upgraded filter backplate does have a hole, closed with a brass plug, for the oil breather tube to connect to the filter backplate via a 90 degree elbow.

I searched but didn't find any explanation why the oil breather line is not connected to the intake filter.  I have seen many tales of the breather tube 'puking'.  Is this to prevent fouling?  If the breather just dumps a little oil in the air intake what does it harm?  Is this issue associated with overfilling the oil?  (my 90 Sportster will breath so much oil into the filter after steady high rpm travel that the carb will foul and engine quit).

On the one hand, the higher elevation of the intake mounting might keep less oil from rising far enough to enter the filter assembly.  On the other hand, the suction of the air intake might draw more oil up the breather hose.

  I also note that some people route the breather hose all the way over the rear tire and out the back which certainly raises the breather hose fairly high.  Are people sure any oil escapes the hose that way?  Any idea whether more or less than when the hose is mounted low, to a filter, like the bottom bolt of the front engine frame mount?

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Re: oil breather
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2017, 01:06:49 PM »
Letting oil puke onto air filter, could create more problems than you describe...
So we reroute.
I tend to believe if you watch how much oil you put into the bike, it probably won't puke..... If any.  Unless there are other issues.
I'm not sure if height of puke pipe is all that relevant other than oil sitting in droopy parts of hose pushing out from escaping gasses...
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Re: oil breather
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2017, 01:08:09 PM »
I'm a believer in getting what ever oil comes out, at the very furthest from my brakes and tire
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Re: oil breather
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2017, 07:09:34 PM »
Once it stops puking, It's full! Check it on the side stand and note where it indicates... Mine is spot on full cold, full hot when hot.... I know as I seem to puke/vaporize after over filling just a smidge...
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Re: oil breather
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2017, 10:55:45 PM »
Hi wytfut,

"more problems than I describe" I guess I was hoping someone might indicate what those problems could be.  Kind of like 'oil fouling for dummies'. 

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Re: oil breather
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2017, 05:00:48 PM »
I'm not a trained mechanic...
Pure shade tree rusty Ford guy. I love working on our X's, and I've tinkered on a couple of Norton's for giggles.
I've heard these issues;
Frying/damaging valves
Ruining intake gaskets
And the very unsightly mess from the soaked air cleaner dripping...

When our X's puke, it's usually a mess.... That looks like a lot...  Filling air filter so much that it will drip excess. It doesn't take much to figure out how much oil a filter going to hold.
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Re: oil breather
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2017, 10:32:39 PM »

Well, the last clutch I changed was on a f150 but the fun clutch was on a Fiero.  They were made for 4 years, I had two 84's) 

I like the bike mechanics more because they are of a more manageable size for me.

So I'm not a trained mechanic either.  I am doing the maintenance on my '90 Sportster.
That breather tube so fouled the filter on the secondary highways of Ohio last spring/summer that I had to stop and dry it out.

So I will go with the common agreement to keep the air in and oil out separate.