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X known numbers..
« on: August 27, 2017, 04:20:05 PM »
Franknsr got me thinking today..... about a topic I've thought a lot about, but not aloud very much....
What exactly are the numbers of X's out there still running?
What exactly are the number of X owners out there that even know about us?
How many X's are lost for ever?
Read along here, its an interesting topic... and probably not accurate, but fun to think about...
Interesting topics for a goof ball like me...

On the resource board (yahoo), there are 583 members. I'm going to guess about a hundred of them are roll overs from the "dealer38" site, and they do not have own an X anymore. These 100 dropped out of X world, because the factory doors were closing, and engine heat issues were coming to lite with no known fixes (unlike now).... people were afraid of owning an Orphan bike. Id guess a lot of X owners don't even know about this site anymore. No I'm not bashing, as this is where I learned the most about X's, as this was THE ONLY SITE THERE WAS that knew anything after the doors closed. 

On the facebook site there are 300 members accounted for. We need to note that Owners on any of these sites may not be active in the community but none the less, owners... probably not typical nutz like me....

And on this site there are 208 members listed... Some of these members are obviously not active in the community, but owners that found a really cool bike, that no one knows about....   possibly lost in the general confusion...

so back to facebook... my guess active owners....    250..
this site active.... guess....    150....   

Between these three sites... I'd pick the resource board for its most memberships.... and add a possible 100 to the 483. This 100 would be the members of these sites that do not inter social with all 3 sites....

Ok.... most active owners own more than one.   .... to make that number simple... double 583= 1166

1166 is the number of possible bikes that know about our community.. that leaves 1952-1166=886
886 X's out there that do not know us...
of that 886 X's... subtract a guessible 200 that are blown up, burned to the ground, totaled in an accident.

Our new number is 686 X's out there.....   that know nothing of us, or do know about us and refuse to be involved.  For example, the ever rumor of an X owner in Minnesota that owns over 30 X's, and will not talk to anyone about any of it, they are hidden.

In Omaha,.... an excutive of a corporation who owns 17....
In Reno, another owner with the same number. .....

these are the ones that I KNOW about. .... I'm sure there are more...

so lets take those numbers away with a few more, for owners that I don't know, who own way more than 1, and do not embibe with us socially...   500 sounds reasonable.

500 X's that don't know about the X community. Who can argue this point? You take your X anywhere even today, and everyone is asking what is it....    And these questions are usually from other bikers, who should be in the know....

So what does this all prove? ... No idea, its just imagination running amock, for fun. These remaining 500.... could very well be lost in time, until that perfect barn find of 2053 happens...

I've often wondered how many X's are sitting in the back of someones garage or shop with stuff stacked all over it, dirty, leaking.... as it "broke" and the owner has no idea what to do or thinks that "someday", will arrive.

In my area alone I know of 2 Xs that never appeared for sale anywhere, but I saw them frequently for a few years, way back around 2002.... both, I saw the last time, were running horrible, sounding like anvils banging around....    where are they now... in that possible shop/garage, covered with junk?

interesting thoughts....

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Re: X known numbers..
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2017, 08:03:31 PM »
I wonder about the same thing from time to time. How many of these bikes were purchased and are being ridden once every couple years or are collecting dust somewhere. A couple years back I tried to track down the guy I sold 569 to so I could back from him, and I couldn't find him or the bike. I'm guessing 569 is in one of those two categories.

We know that there are not that many left in crates, so they must be in someone's garage.

Maybe we should ask to have a date column to the registry so we can try to keep it updated.



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Re: X known numbers..
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2017, 01:43:55 PM »
I know there is currently a fellow in Arizona who is completely parting out a bike. You've probably seen some of his listings on eBay. Makes me wonder how many others did the same out there after the factory closed. Sometimes people believe they can get more of their investment back by parting out these bikes, since parts are no longer in production. And they may be right, there is value in the parts. But I really hate seeing that, since there are so few of these bikes to begin with.

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Re: X known numbers..
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2017, 12:32:40 AM »
Hey guys, didn't want you to think I had fallen off the edge of the earth. I usually check the forum from my phone and most times, I forget to reply. Because of that, it probably shows long periods of inactivity. I usually ping this place once a day.

I must say I'm guilty of not riding mine as much as I'd like but, then, I haven't ridden ANY of my bikes in over 12 months. Things have been very busy...

And yes, mine are collecting dust: two of them next to me in the family room as I type this. There are worse things for a motorcycle than being inside an air conditioned and heated house. I still can't express how much I love these bikes.  ;D

I too wonder where so many of the other bikes have gone. I scan the local craigslist for them at least weekly. It seems that most may be right up there in the Minnesota area. With the shorter riding seasons I wonder how many are inside damp barns or garages.
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Re: X known numbers..
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2017, 01:21:05 AM »
Alright, I had a few minutes and you guys got me wondering: where ARE all the bikes--at least according to the registry?
  • 1,623 bikes are listed in the registry out of 1,950 (?) total or 83% of them checking in at some time or another.
  • 67 bikes are registered as outside the United States, with Sweden leading at 38 of them. The UK is a distant second with 6 and Canada with 4.
  • My guess that most are in Minnesota was correct. If you lump Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan and Illinois, you have 564 of the bikes, or more than a third of the registry.
  • Lumping the supposedly "bike friendly" warmer states of California, Florida, Texas and Arizona together only accounts for 281 entries.
QTY    State
353    MN
98    CA
74    MI
73    WI
66    FL
64    IL
59    TX
58    AZ
55    PA
41    OH
40    NC
38    WA
37    IN
36    CO
32    GA
32    NY
30    MO
26    NJ
25    SD
22    NE
19    SC
19    VA
18    IA
17    MD
16    AL
16    Unknown State
15    NM
14    MA
14    OK
14    OR
14    WY
12    KY
12    NH
10    CT
10    ID
10    TN
9    KS
9    UT
7    MT
7    NV
6    MS
6    ND
5    LA
3    AK
3    AR
3    ME
3    VT
2    DE
2    RI
1    HI
1    WV

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Re: X known numbers..
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2017, 05:41:13 AM »
That's a cool perspective..
Thanx
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Re: X known numbers..
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2017, 11:51:51 PM »
I also found it interesting that Minnesota has more than the entire rest of the top-five, combined. Wow.
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Re: X known numbers..
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2017, 12:58:30 AM »
Registrations by state is pretty good start. Anyone know if sales by dealer info is available in the archives anywhere? Maybe the old build list with dealer names is a start, but I recall a lot of bikes being build for inventory, not specifically for dealers.

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Re: X known numbers..
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2017, 03:22:10 PM »
Gee... I guess I should update my part of the Registry.. I've got 7 of 'em.. 3 running, 3 almost running and 1375's frame...
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